- Station
- Radio NABA 95.8 FM, University of Latvia
- Show
- Morning show, live
- Hosts
- Mārtiņš and Irbe
- Date
- Friday, September 4, 2026
- Guests
- Dana Ellyn, Matt Sesow and festival curator Katrīna Āboltiņa
- Length
- 21 minutes
- Occasion
- Opening day of Art for Meat Tax, Creative Factory Veldze, Rīga, September 4–6, 2026
About the interview
Radio NABA 95.8 FM is the University of Latvia’s non-commercial station. On Friday morning, September 4, 2026, the day Art for Meat Tax opened, Dana Ellyn and Matt Sesow went on its morning show with festival curator Katrīna Āboltiņa.
The hosts opened in Latvian and Katrīna introduced the festival. Then Dana and Matt talked in English about their paintings and why they came to Rīga. The recording runs 21 minutes and has English captions, with the Latvian parts translated.
Listen to the interview
Radio NABA 95.8 FM morning show, Friday, September 4, 2026. Captioned in English throughout: white captions were spoken in English, yellow captions are translated from Latvian. Full transcript on latvia.sesow.com.
In Dana’s words
Asked about the work in the show, Dana explained what she’d painted for the festival:
“I made a specific body of work for this show, focusing on — not specifically the meat tax, because that’s not a subject for me to weigh in on as an American coming to Latvia. But I had plenty of background painting animals, and how we see them, and how we treat animals differently depending on which animal it is… Say, putting a girl hugging a dog next to a girl hugging a pig and asking: what’s the difference here? Why do we love one and eat the other?”Dana Ellyn, Radio NABA, September 4, 2026
“This subject feels so important to me — we’re coming.”Dana’s answer to the festival’s invitation, as curator Katrīna Āboltiņa told it on air
Photos at the station
What the interview covered
Katrīna introduces the festival
In Latvian, curator Katrīna Āboltiņa introduced the second Art for Meat Tax, organized by Sandris Mūriņš, Roberta and herself, running that evening through Sunday in the cellars of Creative Factory Veldze: “a very historic, interesting place… and a little spooky.” Twenty-seven artists from seven countries, part of the White Night program. She introduced Dana and Matt as the year’s special guest artists, who came from Washington for the festival.
Five blocks from the White House
In English, Dana and Matt talked about living and painting downtown in Washington, selling their work online to collectors around the world, and walking past the White House to the post office to ship it. The bomb-sniffing dogs out front always want to see what’s in the packages; Matt called that Dana’s favorite part of the walk.
Why do we love one and eat the other?
Dana explained the work she made for the festival: not the meat tax itself, but how differently we treat animals depending on which animal it is (her words above).
Researching Latvia
Before the trip they painted from what they read about Latvia: the Bremen Town Musicians statue (the rooster, the cat, the dog and the donkey), grey peas (they had bought a bag but not yet cooked them), sprats on rye, and the discovery that dill is in everything.
The rest of the work
Other paintings in the show: a Mr. Monopoly figure surrounded by animals, about capitalism and factory farming, and a portrait of Kafka with his line about looking fish in the eye once he stopped eating them. They kept the work bright and lighthearted. They also described earlier food-culture series abroad, including a little pig standing on tapas in Barcelona, and how this time they brought every painting finished and carried them in by hand.
Painting together: DEFILED
They described their joint paintings: Matt starts a piece and captures the essence of the person, then Dana paints on top and firms up the details. They might paint something from the interview, maybe the hosts with the NABA logo behind them.
A painting for the hosts
It was Mārtiņš’s name day, traditionally marked with a black rooster, and Irbe is Latvian for partridge, so the guests promised the hosts a painting of a partridge and a black rooster.
How Dana said yes
Back in Latvian, Katrīna explained that the festival runs with no budget, as pure activism, and that this year’s theme was gluttony and overconsumption. Some artists were invited directly, Dana among them. When the organizers asked for prints, Dana wrote back: “This subject feels so important to me — we’re coming.” Katrīna described Dana as painting “realistically and expressively” and Matt as an expressionist, “a bit in the style of Basquiat.” Dana brought 21 paintings and Matt 14, all for sale, with the money going entirely to the artists.
The weekend
Katrīna ran through the program: the opening that evening, Dana and Matt’s artist talk on Saturday at 2 pm during White Night, and Sunday’s closing panel with Dana, Matt and Katrīna Tračuma on how activist art changes the world. To close, a guest asked for a song: The Smiths’ “Meat Is Murder.”
The building
Radio NABA is the University of Latvia’s non-commercial station. It broadcasts from Aspazijas bulvāris 5, a building put up in 1902–04 as the city’s imperial Post and Telegraph Office; Riga Radio moved into it in 1932. The boulevard is named for the poet Aspazija (1865–1943), wife of Latvia’s national poet Rainis, whose granite statue Dana and Matt passed in Esplanāde three days later.
More from Rīga
The festival opened that evening at Creative Factory Veldze and ran through September 6. Two days earlier, Latvian Television had filmed Dana and Matt painting in their apartment.